Adding stuffs[]
Can somebody (any admin) help me to add some stuffs in trivia and interlanguage? I found that "nanika" means something in Japanese reading, but somehow it wrote in kanji 闇（なにか）and it should be read as "yami (darkness)" than "nanika". Well this is how Japanese language works, much like they named their Greed Island cards in kanji, but reading is based on English.
About interlanguage, just add zh:阿路加•揍敵客. Thanks! 珊瑚留言 16:11, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Alluka's nen type[]
I know this has been discussed before (though it's archived), but at no point in the series is Alluka ever stated to be a specialist. While this is, admittedly, a logical inference, it's still an inference and one that relies on assumptions. Given new information re: Nanika (the image seen in volume 33 between chapters 341-342) + information taken from the mobile games, Alluka's nen type should be listed as unknown. Unless I am missing/forgetting text that explicitly states her to be a specialist, which I don't believe I am, Alluka being a specialist is essentially a(n until now) sensible headcanon that should never have been put on the wiki as fact. Shouldn't this be changed to reflect material linked to the series? (Again, mobile games, which lists Alluka under "non-attribute" which is used for characters with unknown nen types or who have not yet unlocked their nen. I recognize that mobile games are dubiously canon, but in this case there is no text in the actual anime/manga that rebukes it.) Olivemeister (talk) 17:33, June 8, 2016 (UTC)
"A" transgender[]
- Many transgender people consider the use of transgender (and similar adjectives) as a noun to be offensive, and several guides advise against such usage.[5][6][7][8]
Simple fix: "Alluka being a transgender" should be changed to "Alluka being transgender" 69.146.145.159 18:43, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
According to the official databook...[]
The part about Alluka being said to be male in the databook needs some backing up. The databook has no entry on her, so was she in it because the Zoldyck family was said to have five sons, or is it another source entirely? --Martialmaniac (talk) 19:36, March 30, 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, it's because Alluka is directly referred to as "brother"; and Alluka is mentioned by name in the databook. The character page has been updated with more details. --Gorgo616 (talk) 17:42, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Gorgo! Martialmaniac (talk) 13:52, April 23, 2019 (UTC)
"a transgender" again?[]
"Transgender" is an adjective, not a noun. i am pikapika200 (talk) 15:41, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
Fixed.
Humble × Humble (talk) 16:16, April 15, 2019 (UTC)
been changed again. i am pikapika200 (talk) 20:04, August 10, 2019 (UTC)
I didn't find a place where it stated Alluka is "a transgender", but if you found something stating that somewhere in the article please point out where and I'll try to change it.
Humble × Humble (talk) 12:15, August 11, 2019 (UTC)
"an enormous surplus of energy comes from Gon"[]
It is unconfirmed that said energy comes from Gon, it might well be coming from Nanika. In fact, Illumi looking on the display and saying "I want that power" points to (though in no way confirms) the aura coming from Nanika. I would be in favor of acknowledging that we cannot say for sure that Nanika is a Nen user, but no evidence points towards that aura belonging to Gon instead of Nanika. Martialmaniac (talk) 17:58, August 14, 2019 (UTC)
- I unblocked the page in case you want to adjust some information about Nen. --Gorgo616 (talk) 20:38, August 15, 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. If you deem it sufficient, as much as it pains me to say it, better lock it up again before the crazies realize it's unlocked. Martialmaniac (talk) 00:24, August 20, 2019 (UTC)
- I am aware, and thank you. I was just wondering if you found the edits satisfactory. Martialmaniac (talk) 14:23, August 24, 2019 (UTC)
Alluka's sex---official sex versus biological sex[]
The official data book is listed as "proof" of Alluka's sex. However, is there any reason to believe this doesn't simply refer to her "official sex" (i.e. what the Zoldyck family has registered her as) as opposed to her biological sex? Does the official data book say "biological sex" or simply "sex"?
In episode 140 of the anime, Killua says he had Canary tag along with the two of them in order to have someone help with Alluka's "delicate needs as a girl". Now, if we assume Alluka is biologically a male, this sounds... wrong. There are only so many types of "delicate needs" someone with male genitalia could use the "help" of a young girl for. And if Alluka actually was male, she'd no doubt prefer Killua help her with any non-sexual 'delicate needs' she might have.
A much more likely explanation is that she is, in fact, biologically female, and the official data book simply lists her 'official' sex.
Presumably daughters of the Zoldyck family are raised as sons so that they wouldn't feel as though their sex holds them back as warriors / assassins. As we know, in Hunter x Hunter, training generally trumps any biological advantages, so it would make sense for the Zoldycks to want to instill this type of mentality onto their daughters.
Bavio the Benighted (talk) 08:47, May 26, 2020 (UTC)Bavio_the_Benighted
What you're proposing here is a crackpot theory with no evidence. The Kikyo Zoldyck is very feminine and there is no reason to assume the Zoldycks run a sexist household other than conjecture. The household does have evidence of being transphobic i.e. parents refusing to call her by her preferred pronouns but trusted butlers and favorite brother addressing her correctly. It's the plainest and most likely reading that Alluka is trans and that Killua felt uncomfortable having grown men making his little sister uncomfortable. I'm assuming you don't know many trans people but trans girls tend not to be more comfortable with other cis guys just because they're "male" especially if they're as young as Alluka. Blumenblatt (talk) 19:39, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
First of all, we know with 100% certainty that Killua's family is absolutely not transphobic, since if they were, they would never buy feminine clothes for Alluka or Kalluto. Also, Killua's family refers to Alluka as "that thing". They never refer to her gender. So clearly they don't care.
Secondly, the evidence points heavily to the likelihood of Alluka being biologically female. For one, she was given female clothes. Also, Alluka is a Japanese name given exclusively to females. They wouldn't give her a female name if she was biologically male.
In addition, we never see Alluka make a point about her gender. Killua is the only one who does. Logically, this makes it seem even less likely that she's trans, because (non-closet) transgender people tend to care more about their own gender than cisgender people do.
Based on the given evidence, we arrive to the following conclusion: more likely than not, the Zoldycks treat all of their children as male, so as to give them confidence as warriors or to make them seem more formidable as assassins, regardless of their biological sex (with masculinity being associated with strength). Killua doesn't subscribe to this culture and treats Alluka as a female based on her biological sex.
And this isn't sexist; it's a biological fact that males are stronger, on average, than females. Even in the HxH world, all of the strongest characters are male, and this is true within the Zoldyck family as well. As such, the Zoldycks treating their female children as male has real-life implications by 1) giving said female children the subconscous impression that they have just as much potential to excel in martial arts as their brothers and 2) by giving outsiders the impression that each and every one of the Zoldyck children is a capable warrior (which is true, but outsiders might not presume so if they learned that the Zoldycks had female children---some might even decide to kidnap one of the daughters in an attempt to extort money from the family).
So logically, it actually makes perfect sense that the Zoldycks would treat all of their female children as male, and this does seem to be the case based on the available evidence.
Bavio the Benighted (talk) 17:24, July 12, 2020 (UTC)Bavio the Benighted
Information about Alluka's gender is not objective, and should be corrected.[]
We need to review the information about Alluka's gender, and follow the example of the Russian adaptation of this page. That is, to indicate that Alluka as a girl, perceives only Killua(The same misgenderya Alluka, but now not about this) In general, the biological sex of Alluka is male. Just look at the example from the Russian version.https://hunterxhunter.fandom.com/ru/wiki/Аллука_Золдик
The changes that you've requested will not be made as not only are they against Fandom ToU. But also, since a majority of admins and community members on here during the time of the change made a decided to use Alluka's current pronouns and respect her as a girl.
HumbleX (talk) 15:02, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
пНам нужно пересмотреть информацию о гендере Аллуки и последовать примеру русской адаптации этой страницы.То есть указать, что Аллука, как девушка, воспринимает только Киллуа(Та же мисгендеря Аллука, но сейчас не об этом) В общем, биологический пол Аллуки-мужской. пПросто посмотрите на пример из русской версии.https://hunterxhunterfand om.com/ru/wiki/Аллука_Золдикп UPD 11.05.2021: In such a case, this information is not canon. You have once again proved your incompetence. It's even sad somehow. However, I will wish you a good day.
I still don't understand why people say she's "trans"[]
She's 11. How can she be trans? She probably doesn't even know what it means and isn't aware of pronouns. I feel like it's just her family that uses masculine pronouns but don't actually consider her a guy. Just because people use masculine pronouns for someone doesn't mean that person is trans. Those who actually think she's trans is concerning to me. Because they don't think about the fact that the Zoldycks are raised as men since the average men are phsyically stronger than the average women. So why do they think she's trans? Well, I'm guessing it's because TWO, only TWO family members and a few servants reffer to her as guy. Like, seriously? It's like supporting the fact that she's being forced into being trans and then yall say "oh you need to respect her pronouns" like shut up!!! So really, it really is concering people say she's trans, and the fact that she's even on the LGBT characters page pisses me off because it has nothing to do with her. Then the snowflakes start getting mad and pissed because they are trying so hard to convince and prove to others that she's trans, like fr it's annoying.
"The discrepancies around Alluka's gender and her use of feminine terms heavily suggest that she is a trans girl."[]
Guys what is this? This is an 11 year-old child. Can we be sensible and use our heads properly?
- I agree; given that no conclusive evidence exists in either direction, phrasing this part more objectively is advisable. I would suggest something along the lines of: "The discrepancy between Alluka's gender and her use of feminine terms suggests that she may be transgender." Or, alternatively, "Though Alluka is referred to as a "son" by the Zoldycks, her use of feminine terms suggests that she may be biologically female or a trans girl." Bavio the Benighted (talk) 01:37, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Request: Sex VS. Gender Misinformation[]
On Alluka's page where "Gender" would usually be listed, "Sex" is there instead. This being unlike all other pages on this website, as well as containing false information, raises the question of why this hasn't been changed yet. For anyone wondering what I mean by "false information", Alluka's sex isn't Female, but Male. What the category SHOULD be is "Gender", just like all other character pages on this website. Changing the category naming error (Sex —> Gender) would fix this misinformation in the process. Request: As stated before, change the characteristics category of "Sex" to "Gender".
Age inference[]
So far all the Zoldycks ages have been updated to match the current timeline besides Alluka,she is roughly a year older than Kalluto and a year younger than Killua, in 2001 Kalluto is currently 12 while Killua is 14 so Alluka should be 13 but the page inference still lists it as a 11
Proofreading[]
On my end (seeing on the mobile site on Safari), the Plot section, second paragraph, first sentence seems to contain an additional closing bracket after Milluki’s name. SovietSnail (talk) 04:27, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Fixed.